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September 20, 2011 Tonight live at 8PM PT:  Tonight on Gadfly Radio, Ben Boychuk of CA City Journal joins me as we talk with John Seiler of, Angelo M. Codevilla, professor emeritus of international relations at Boston University, Senior Fellow with The Clarmont Institute and author most recently of “The Ruling Class” and “Advice to War Presidents.”
Tom Donalson is the President of America’s PAC and America’s Majority.  He works to carry on the work compiled by the late Richard Nadler, a contributor to American Spectator and NRO as well as the founder and President of America’s Majority up until his passing in May of 2009.

Why have Latino voters abandoned the Republican Party in CA in such dramatic numbers?  The GOP cannot win and has no future in CA unless it wins over a significant number of Latino voters.  What is the problem?  What is the solution? Does it matter? 

Our program focuses mainly on CA politics, policy, business and jobs.   This past weekend, the CA GOP had its fall convention in the heart of Los Angeles, in a redevelopment zone called LA Live.   Ron Paul stole the thunder in the Presidential Straw Poll, and Michelle Bachmann fared worse than Perry and Romney  in the same poll even though she was the keynote speaker on Friday night at the Convention.

The State of CA is close to being fully dominated by the Democratic Party.   Republicans cling to a thread of power but have to fight the redisticting maps to hold on.   Their numbers of support among Latinos is at an all time low.

Juliet Williams reported in the Washington Examiner:

GOP registration has been sliding for years, with Republicans now accounting for 31 percent of registered voters, compared to 44 percent for Democrats and about 20 percent for independents.
Any strategy to revive that registration cannot succeed without persuading Hispanics, who comprise a third of the California electorate.  Click here to read more.

In June of 2010, the WSJ reported Hispanic Voters Drift From GOP:

Among California Latinos who registered between the 2002 and 2006 midterm elections, 23% were Republican, 50% were Democrats and 23% declined to state. More recently, GOP affiliation among Latinos has begun to slip. For those who registered since the 2006 midterm vote, only 16% are Republicans, 56% are Democrats and 24% declined to state an affiliation. For non-Latino voters, the figures are 24% Republican, 44% Democrat and 26% independent since 2006. 

Back in May of 2009, Alan Hoffenblum who has been a  guest on this program, wrote about the CA GOP’s shrinking base in this piece called California’s Republican Legislators — a White Males’ Club.   In it, he cited a recent poll by the CA branch of Public Opinion Strategies:

According to their research,voter registration among LATINO voters is 57% Democratic, 19% Republican, 20% Independent, and 4% other; among ASIAN voters, it is 30% Democratic, 29% Republican, 39% Independent, 2% other; and among BLACK voters, it is 83% Democratic, 8% Republican, 9% Independent.  

Angelo M. Codevilla wrote this piece  in June 2009,  and started a firestorm among Conservatives  around the message they send to Latinos. 

Recently, Mark Kerkorian engaged in debate  with Codevilla.  Here are few links to some of the writings back and forth: 

Not from the Onion May 6, 2011 4:43 P.M. By Mark Krikorian 
Response to Codevilla By Mark Krikorian, Posted on May 16, 2011 9:53 AM 

Perhaps the most ridiculous sentence ever written on immigration from the right: Were Americans once again to take citizenship seriously, to dismantle the welfare state’s bureaucratic and psychological culture of entitlement, to dismiss the image of themselves as white-gloved administrators, and to banish America’s drug culture, then Americans could safely stop worrying about our southern border. Yeah, and if there were less gravity we’d all run faster. 
Re: Not from the Onion May 9, 2011 2:58 P.M. By Angelo M. Codevilla 
Mark Krikorian writes that my article “Our Borders, Ourselves” “attempt[s] to undermine opposition” to one of our ruling class’s “most important tools,” namely “mass migration.” He charges that I want to “allow our nation to be crucified on the cross of unlimited immigration” and accuses me of “contempt for the actual people living in the actual United States of America who, whatever our manifold sins, would like to preserve whatever’s left of our country.”

I recently met a young man, in his early thirties, thin and tan and sporting aviator sunglasses with mirrored lenses.  He kept his hope alive by the encounters with people who bartered with him honestly, despite the many who cheat him of his pay for a hard day’s, week’s and even several weeks’ work.  He is an ‘llegal.’   He likes to read and write and study history in his spare time.  He sends money home to put his two sister through college and help his mother in the Central American Country he comes from.  

He  showed me a book he carries in his backpack, a tattered paperback called “Como Ganar Amigos E Influir Sobre las Personas” in Spanish. We know it in English as “How to Win Friends and Influence People” by Dale Carnegie.   He recommended it to me.  Said he knew he could be somebody someday. 

I know that book.  I’ve read it before.  It’s from one of our legendary U.S. Capitalists.  It’s  a primer in Capitalism.  You start with the customer is always right. You have something to offer, to sell. How are you communicating your message to your customers?   

We are in the business of ideas.  Our marketplace is broad and diverse.  Our fundamentals are fundamental and shape our success or our failure.   

Codevilla closed his article back in 2009 with this statement: 
“How Russians or Chinese or Indonesians feel about Americans, or how we feel about them, makes little difference simply because such peoples are neither neighbors nor relatives. But because Mexicans are at once close neighbors and relatives, our sentiments toward them and theirs toward us are of the greatest importance. When we make enemies of Mexicans, we foul our own nest.”

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GOP leaders: Anti-immigration stance hurts party

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) — Republican speakers at a conference on reaching Hispanic voters urged the party to tone down its rhetoric on immigration and to take up comprehensive reform in Congress, warning that the party could lose ground with the country’s increasingly diverse citizenry if it doesn’t.

“(Hispanics) will be the swing voters as they are today in the swing states. If you want to elect a center-right president of the United States, it seems to me you should be concerned about places like New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, Texas, places where but for the Hispanic vote, elections are won and lost,” said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who co-chaired the conference organized by the new Hispanic Leadership Network.

But those gathered at the South Florida conference seemed split over whether the GOP’s lack of Hispanic support is simply because of the party’s tone, or if there’s a more substantive problem with the GOP’s policies….Click here to read more.

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The GOP’s Immigration Opportunity Republicans are natural champions of sensible changes that would make us more secure and benefit the economy.


With the incoming Congress looking for accomplishments, here’s one the Republican majority should take up immediately: immigration reform. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Republicans are its natural champions. The GOP led the way in 1986 and 1996, when partial immigration reforms were enacted. And a Republican Senate, with the support of President George W. Bush, passed comprehensive reform in 2006, only to see it die in the House.

Under President Barack Obama and a House run by Nancy Pelosi, immigration became a wedge used to separate Hispanic voters from the Republican Party. Thus came the sad spectacle of the Justice Department suing to block Arizona’s common-sense enforcement efforts. Congress’s failure to move any legislation on the issue has only added to the public’s discontent.

Republicans should break this logjam by offering a vision of sensible immigration reform that can benefit U.S. citizens and boost America’s influence globally. Such reform should focus on three critical national interests: security, the economy and freedom.

Security is first: Immigration must be viewed in a post-9/11 context. Immigration enforcement—including background checks for visa issuance, customs and border security, and apprehension of dangerous illegal aliens—is the frontline in the campaign against terrorism. Click here to read more.

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Here’s why it is strategically more effective for libertarians to run on the Republican Ticket

Dems back third-party candidates to undercut GOP
Jim Rutenberg, New York Times new york times
October 23, 2010 Saturday, October 23, 2010

Seeking any slight advantage in their effort to avoid losing control of Congress, Democrats are working behind the scenes in a number of tight races to bolster longshot third-party candidates who have platforms at odds with the Democratic agenda but hold the promise of siphoning Republican votes.

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A Voice of Immigration Sanity Lost: Adios Amigo, Hermano, Richard Nadler

(in the middle in this photo, flanked my me, and Steven Greenhut)
From the WSJ’s Political Diary, 6-5-2009
One Less Guide Out of the GOP’s Wilderness
Richard Nadler, head of the think tank Americas Majority and one of the keenest observers of minority politics in the conservative movement, passed away suddenly at his Overland Park, Kansas home last Saturday. He was only 60 years old.
Nadler had an amazing career. He dropped out of high school, became a successful jazz musician touring with a black ensemble, and eventually dropped his socialist views for conservatism. His major work was motivated by his discovery during the time he spent with both blacks and Hispanics that they held many essentially conservative views, but that Republicans had failed miserably to reach them.
He assembled comprehensive political databases that helped show a key reason John McCain last year underperformed George W. Bush’s showing among Hispanics by 13%. He found that many Hispanic voters, the fastest-growing part of the electorate, were alienated by the “enforcement only” approach that many conservatives adopted towards illegal immigration. “They will support border enforcement but not if it means massive deportations and no legal way that the seven million people now working here can stay,” he told me.
He noted that the country’s 30 million Hispanics are linked to illegal aliens through ties of family, church, culture and a common broadcast media. The Pew Hispanic Center notes that 41% of America’s Hispanic citizens fear a deportation action against a friend or family member. “To the extent that Republicans don’t come up with a guest-worker program that helps reduce the flow of undocumented workers, they commit themselves to navigate a population minefield — one whose volatility will inevitably increase with the natural migrations of Latino legal citizens who can and do vote.”
Accolades for Nadler are coming in from many quarters. “He was one of the most brilliant men I ever met,” says Ramesh Ponnuru of National Review, who cheerfully disagreed with some of Nadler’s analysis. “One of the few grown-ups one meets in politics,” says Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. “He knew it was important to both get your political goals correct — what are you trying to do — and to know how to get there.”
At a time when conservatives seem as much at sea as ever on how to handle immigration issues, Nadler’s voice will be missed.
— John Fund

Meg Whitman’s first hurdle – state’s male GOP

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
Tuesday, February 17, 2009

(02-16) 17:18 PST —

“In diverse, cutting-edge California – the nation’s most populous state – the Grand Old Party has been anything but grand to women eyeing a future in politics.”

“There really hasn’t been that much of an effort to bring in women or ethnic minorities to the party … and those are the two obvious places where, if you’re trying to expand your base, you have to do it.”

This Should Never Happen Again: GOP’s HUGE missed opportunity with Victor Elizalde

Back in 2004, a smart, good-looking moderate Republican Hispanic ran for Congress. At the time Victor Elizalde was just under 40 years old and working as an executive at a big-time Hollywood studio. As an ethnic minority, a family man and a rare open conservative in an industry dominated by liberals, Mr. Elizalde represented hope and change for the Republican Party.

Yet because he was running for Henry A. Waxman´s safe seat, Mr. Elizalde got no support from the Republican Party . In fact, no one in the party´s leadership took notice of him. As a result Mr. Waxman trounced Mr. Elizalde with 71 percent of the vote. (more…)

“Demography will indeed be destiny if Republicans can’t broaden their reach” — columnist Ron Brownstein, writing in the National Journal

Quote of the Day II
“From 1992 to 2008, the share of the vote cast by African-Americans jumped from 8% to 13%. For Hispanics the share soared from 2% to 9%; for Asians and other minorities combined, from 2% to 5%. Meanwhile, the percentage of the vote cast by well-educated whites remained unchanged at 35%. The big losers were blue-collar whites — those without college degrees — whose share plummeted from 53% in 1992 to just 39% now. That’s a threat to the GOP because those culturally conservative, working-class whites are today its most reliable voters. . . . Demography will indeed be destiny if Republicans can’t broaden their reach” — columnist Ron Brownstein, writing in the National Journal. /WSJ Political Diary Quote of the Day 1-14-09

The GOP’s power struggle begins!

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The GOP’s power struggle begins!

There are six candidates for GOP chairman. All six are invited to address a self appointed “conservative” steering committee meeting, on January 6th, at which a straw poll will be held to see who is the favored conservative candidate? Who are the candidates? Who’s on this special private committee? Are they really conservative? What defines ‘conservative?’

The day before the candidates are to appear at the Jan. 6 steering committee meeting, they also have agreed to a debate at the National Press Club, sponsored by Americans for Tax Reform, headed by Grover Norquist.

Who will be the next chair for the GOP? Why does it matter? What is Carl Rove’s role and interest in all of this? Will the GOP be a voice and leader for smaller government, lower taxes, small business friendly policy, school choice, secure property rights, or will it remain on the wrong track, promoting bigger government loss of individual liberty?

I’m Hispanic and I vote for limited govt. I want to spread the message, because it is about real empowerment, hope and opportunity

The GOP has lost ground with Hispanics.

In many ways, it’s a failure to communicate, a case of looking at the glass as half empty instead of half full. It will take Hispanics choosing to participate in mass in the Republican Party, for the Republican Party to win elections in CA and the Southwest. It is possible because of the principles articulated in the Republican Party’s platform, if only their was a will to communicate the message.

Hispanics want our children to be educated, and that means competition so that the best solutions and approaches can rise to the top.

Hispanic small business owners may decide that they’re tired of supporting Hispanic candidates, just because they’re Hispanic, and they talk about being for their communities, while they serve the special interests that act to restrict individual liberties, and abilities to start, run, grow, and prosper in a business.

We love the same things that non Hispanics love, our families, good food, wine, beer, a nice home, a car or two, vacations, financial security, and retirement with dignity and comfort. We don’t want to be any body’s fool, or tool, and we esteem honor. Culturally, there is no shame in working hard at honest work.

The majority of us believe in God and fear Him. Appeal to our sense of honor, of honesty, of justice, of dignity. Give us the benefit of the doubt that we will respond.

Don’t get hung up on our use of Spanish. It’s the language of our parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles. It’s the language of the songs written by the great romantics, including my favorites, Jose Alfredo Jimenez, Agustin Lara, Consuelo Velazquez, Armando Manzanero, and the interpreters like Lola Beltran, Javier Solis, Vicente Fernandez and his heart throb son, Alejandro. To me, the songs and their interpreters evoke that same feeling any American, young or old, worth his credentials, experiences when they hear Frank Sinatra, Hispanic Americans included. It’s the same sensation. Young, old, parents, grand parents, children, all know it, and are swept up my it. It’s an experience that unifies and transports, enchants, and soothes us. To understand the words is to understand the passion, sentiments, tenderness, romance and heart.

I am sad for all those who cannot understand the words to the love songs. It does not take away from my ability to also enjoy the magic of Frank and other American cultural icons that are not Hispanic. I am richer for it. I am sorry that my sons did not learn Spanish. Their father didn’t see the point, when they were young, but later, having grown to understand my family, he wishes he’d supported my desire to teach them both languages. I wish I had insisted.

They have an ear for the music. Every Thanksgiving and Christmas and any other extended family get together, that’s what they hear.

There are many funny words, good laughs and endearing moments tied into my memories of my parents and relatives, mixing up English with Spanish language. We have all kinds of malapropisms, and Spanglish words our parents made up. Many of my contemporaries have grown up to barely speak any Spanish anymore, but they understand it because it’s what our elders insisted on speaking with us. I’m glad they did.

Speaking Spanish does not have to be an impediment to us understanding principles of liberty or limited government. But communications from non Hispanics that evoke contempt, resentment, a lack of trust, a harsh judgemental tone, because we hold on to our Spanish language or we don’t move away from it fast enough–that is an impediment. It builds a wall and cuts off understanding.

Why would anyone want to listen to a message that is delivered, wrapped in anger and contempt? That type of message is adversarial, not unifying or inviting.

Principles of liberty and freedom, equality and limited government are enumerated The Declaration of Independence. “…we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, tht they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness…” These words ring true, whomever hears them and they translate as clearly as the Bible, which by the way, was not written in English–but thanks to scholars, we know we are reading the Word as it was intended to be read.

As a child on the playground in elementary school, when someone pushed their will around, I stood my ground with a phrase I learned in class: “This is a free country.” It was how I asserted my right to my turn on the swings or the foursquare court, or on the baseball field when the boys protested a girl on the field.

I wasn’t invited to join the Republican Party. I joined because I got that the party I had belonged to for 14 years, since I had registered to vote, was opposed to the principles I came to realize were fundamental to my family’s ability to live free, to prosper, self organize and not be punished for success, to compete.

I never stopped loving Los Panchos because I became a Republican. I was weaned on Spanish music. Linda Ronstadt, whose politics are not mine, sings those same songs magnificently, and she can’t claim that music for the Left. This music has a place in American culture. It’s almost like Jazz. It’s been a part of Hispanic American culture since before the Mexican states became U.S. states. The origins extend from Spain, to Cuba, to Mexico, but it evolved across the borders. There are regional sounds. Immigrants from Mexico, and Mexican Americans born in CA, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona were listening to Spanish music in the 1800’s, 10’s, 20’s 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s, as they pursued the American dream. Today, the music is more international than ever before. It extends from Miami to Argentina and across the globe to Spain, and is enjoyed throughout the world.

It’s what we listened to on our record players at home, and at family celebrations, growing up in Los Angeles. Acknowledging and appreciating our cultural idiosyncrasies doesn’t take away from our ability to unify around our shared fundamental principles as conservative people.
Many of our sons serve in the military. We all participate in our labor force and business economy. I hope conservatives recognize the different flavors of conservatism inherent in our body politic. Hispanics don’t have to stop being Hispanic to embrace the party that thats for limited government, liberty, and our ability to pursue our dreams and goals.

GOP Needs Night of Long Knives

Clean House.